different size and shape heads

Discussion in 'Ball Pythons' started by lil_shy_aries, Aug 6, 2009.

  1. lil_shy_aries

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    hello room
    I know im not seeing things, I have wondered this before, forgot about it mainly, but
    why do some morphs have a short stubby face and wide,or long and slender.
    is it a genetically thing or is it just the way it is.
    thanks yall
    shy
     
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  3. teiryklav

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    i never noticed that lol :( :)
     
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  5. Shanna66

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    i would assume its just genetics. my 2 blizzard leopard geckos have much stubbier tails than my other leos, and every hypo i see seems to have a really tubby belly. i guess these genes may be linked to certain colors? im not 100% sure though. but with rats the tailess gene is connected to liver or kidney function.
     
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  7. lil_shy_aries

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    thats one idea I have been rolling around in my head. I just wondered if the breaders had any idea. let me correct that. the herp room
     
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  9. Shanna66

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    i would like to know more about it since im planning on doing small scale breeding of ball pythons and leos in a few years
     
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  11. jeffg46

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    It's probably just a genetic relic from the first examples of the different morphs that started the lines. Why do red heads have freckles? Why do most blonds have blue eyes? Genetic pairs that rarely change over time.
     
  12. lil_shy_aries

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    hello jeffg.
    what you said makes sense, shanna and I were wondering about this fanamina.
    I know my spooks my five year old was wild caught and he has the long slender nose.
    and slender face and jaw area where the muscles are in the back of the head are pumped. thank you for your time
    shy

    does anyone know if wild caught have that cravings for coffee. spooks just needs to smell it and he will go to it. just a thought.
     
  13. Shanna66

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    i dont know, ive had coffee in i room a couple times to give to my rats in small amounts and i have never seen my captive bred normal react to the smell, but ellie is a bit slow and doesnt react to smells too much. i can hold my rats then hold her and she wont act any differently
     
  14. ssscales

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    A moprh of any kind is the same as any normal Ball python or Boa or cornsnake or any snake for that matter, it just has a different paint job, that's all. Theyare the same snake, they eat the same, are housed and cared for the same, their breed and poop the same, it's just a different paint job. As far as different size and head shapes from Balls to Boas, they are different species of snakes, same as a Burmese Python is different compared to a Gatersnake...LOL
     
  15. lil_shy_aries

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    hello ssscales.,
    I thank you for your time to answer this questions.
    thank you for your time to ansewr on my question on here others have wondered the answer.
    Ihave already had my question answered and many more.
    its amazing that the eyes can play tricks on you .
    thank you
    shy
     
  16. Gloryhound

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    Actually Black Pastels and to a lesser extent Cinnamon ball pythons of some lines have what is called a duck bill. Some are a lot more pronounced than others. Some don't seem to have any sign of it. It can really become visible with the super black and super cinnies particularly if made by breeding siblings or Dam/Sire to off spring. For this reason a lot of breeders prefer to breed black pastel to cinnamon pastel when making the super form.
     
  17. ssscales

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    That's actually a deformity in the Super Cinnies, like Kinks in Caramels. What Kelly is asking is comparing head sizes of Boas to Balls or a Pastel Ball to a Mojave Ball or Spider Ball. A Ball is a Ball and head size is the same depending on size of the snake unless one was overfed and may result in a pin head where the head is actually small for the body. Not saying a deformed Ball or Boa or something out of the norm isn't going to look different such as duck bill, bug eyes, or other deformity, but those are not the norm.
     

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