just got 2 bahama anoles last night! HELP

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  1. iguanaguy2100

    iguanaguy2100 New Member

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    yesterday i bought a male and female bahama anole they r about 1 year old. i need to know how much of what to feed them and how often. i also want to know about breeding and taming, and any tips or tricks would help.


    oh and will they eat the crickets dead, how do i serve them?
     
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  3. 00luke00

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    I feed my anoles every day, but every other day would be fine, as long as you are feeding the amount that they will eat within about a 20 minute session, and then taking out the remaining food. IMO, i'd seperate them for the time being, as you don't sound like you are ready to take on the responsibility of breeding them, as this needs a lot of research, and can actually be pretty costly. Generally, anoles don't succumb to taming, and IMHO shouldn't really be handled. It just stresses them out, and stress leads to health problems.

    No, they will most likely not take the dead crickets. If i were you, i'd toss them out straight away, and head down to your lps for some live ones, or order online. You'll also want a good gutload (try www.cricketfood.com) and a water source, ie a carrot, or something similar along the lines.

    What are you using for a heat source? Do you have UVB lighting? A full run-down of the enclosure would help, and the size, and also a few pictures is possible.

    Luke
     
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    I agree. Anoles should not be handled unless it is a life threatening emergency or the enclosure is in need of maintainance. Those are the only times anoles should ever be handled. I doubt that you are ready for the responsibility of breeding since you only have about a days worth of experience.
    Are you sure that the anoles you bought are brown anoles? Sometimes they can be mislabeled. If you are sure that they are brown anoles, Make sure that you do in fact have a male and female.
    Like Luke said, a picture of discription of you enclosure would help.
    Read this care sheet. Although it says green anoles, it applies to grown anoles as well
    http://www.reptilerooms.com/forumtopic-48377.html
    I apologize if I seem a little rude to you but it is for your anoles own good. They are a larger responsibility than most people beleive that they are.
     
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  7. iguanaguy2100

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    it sounds like i am in way over my head.

    i have a 10 gal., beaked moss bedding, 60w exoterra sun glo bulb, a rubber plant with thick stick coming out for climbing.
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  9. plmarsg8

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    First off, change the moss to organic compost or organic potting soil without the fertilizer. Moss can cause impaction and kill your anole.
    What is that black thing? is it a water dish? they are unnecessary and your anoles probably wont even drink from it. They get their water from water droplets on the leaves.
    You will need a UVB bulb in order to synthesize UVB rays from the sun and produce Vitamin D. That light that you have should not be your only source of lighting. I don't see a thermometer or a hygrometer. The temp needs to be around 90 degrees farenheit on the basking spot. They also need a cool side that should be around 85 degrees. These different Temperatures are needed for the anole to be able to themoregulate. The humidity should be around 50-60%
    Definitely get more plants. That bare pacth is not enough for your anoles to feel secure. They can easily get stressed. Finally, Your anoles need an enclosure that is at least twice as big or twenty gallons.
    Taking the proper care for anoles is not easy and is much harder than anyone expects.
     
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  11. iguanaguy2100

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    the black square in back right is a thermometer and yea thats a water dish in the front left. i spray them with water lik half a 5 times a day. the temps are what you suggested and im working on more plants, humidity gauge and a UVB bulb
     
  12. 00luke00

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    I just wanted to emphasize on the neccessity of the UVB lighting. It is 100% essential to the well-being of any diurnal reptile. You'll also want to keep a look out, just to make sure that each anole is getting the right amount of food, and no bullying is occuring.

    Enevitably, you are likely to get babies at some point, if you have a male, and a female, so you need to be prepared if this happens. An incubator needs to be set-up, and then individual hatchling boxes would be ideal. You also need pinhead crickets to feed them with, as the babies are TINY. Correct cricket size is important with hatchlings, as a too large cricket can easily stress a little baby out.
     
  13. plmarsg8

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    Also, If you can't afford the proper enclosure for two anoles, I doubt that you can sustain 10-12 babies ove a period of a few months. Besides the fact that they are smaller and need smaller prey, each baby needs at least 10 gallons to itself. Right now, you need to think about the proper cage requirements for your pair instead of thinking about breeding.
     
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    Any updates on this little guy, hows he doing?
     
  15. iguanaguy2100

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    no babies yet. i got the uvb light. if i need a 10 gal for every baby thenn i will have to give them to the pet store or sumtin.
     
  16. 00luke00

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    I don't mean to sound rude, but you really need to step back a moment, and think about the breeding aspect.

    Babies will need there own seperate enclosures, heating, uvb, basically, everthing an adult needs, just on a smaller scale.. it is not an easy thing to do, and requires a lot of time and money. You most definately won't make a profit out of it either. Most people wont pay for a CB anole when they can get them cheap at their lps, or just catch one themselves.

    I dunno, i guess its just something to think about.
     
  17. Kevin_M

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    Re: RE: just got 2 bahama anoles last night! HELP

    First off congrats on the new pets. :) Your setup looks good, but I would add a few more horizontal branches and some live plants.

    lol, either one can cause impaction, moss is a fine substrate to use.

    I would never keep a baby anole in a ten gallon, all baby herps do best in small enclosures such as plastic kritter keepers or deli cups.

    Actually it is not known if UVB is a must. I know many people who don't keep their diurnal animals with UVB. I have raised hatchling anoles without UVB and they are over 7 years old today.
     
  18. plmarsg8

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    That is not true. Real organic soils are made from worm castings which are digestible. Moss on the other hand CAN cause impaction.
    I would know why some poeple wouldn't put babies in a 10 gallon enclosure but they do use that space. Anoles are very active and use up much space when given to them. Although I can see why you would put them in a LARGE cricket keeper, I do not see the sense in putting them in a Deli Cup other than for transportation.
    I understand that there is debate over this but it is also found that light absorbed through the skin helps animals convert inactive vitamin D to active vitamin D3. Without proper sun or UVB exposure, anoles can be deficient in vitamin D3 and therefore deficient in calcium leading to MBD.
     
  19. Kevin_M

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    Whats wrong with deli cups? Sure the animals will use the space given but they don't feel as secure in a large cage and it is very hard for babies to find food in a large enclosure.
     
  20. plmarsg8

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    Baby green anoles have excellent vision and can easily capture prey in large enclosures. Although some animals do get stressed from large enclosures, babies usually don't feel insecurity as easily.
     
  21. iguanaguy2100

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    would you people make up your dam minds..
     
  22. plmarsg8

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    Make up our minds about what? The question that needs to be answered is if you actually havew the proper enclosure setup for those anoles.
     
  23. 00luke00

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    Not neccessary. Look, we're trying to help you out here. If there was one way to do things, i'm sure everybody would do it that way but there is not. You are always going to hear different opinions about things.

    Anyway, are you still planning on breeding these? I just want to get accross that you need a lot of money to do so, and you'd be lucky if you even break even... let alone make a profit. I don't mean to sound blunt or anything, i'm just saying it how it is.
     

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