Snake Species Inquiry

Discussion in 'General Snakes' started by Dee_Mitchell, Jun 14, 2007.

  1. Dee_Mitchell

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    I would like to see if anyone could identify a species of snake found under my daughter's porch. We live East of Toronto but I have never seen a snake resembling this one in this area before.
    It is at least 4 feet long, a black head with yellow and black rings, each about one inch wide along its entire body.
    I'm concerned because I don't know whether it could hurt her or not.
    I've looked at almost every species and the Kingsnake is the closest in appearance. I would appreciate it if someone could possible identify this snake or point me in the right direction.
    Thanx in advance. Dee
     
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  3. PitsNherps

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    Try garter snake?
     
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  5. Ash19

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    I'm pretty sure we don't have any kingsnakes native to Ontario...and I'm not seeing any species that match your description. Did you get a good look at it? You don't need to worry, I don't think. The only harmful species we have are the Massasauga rattlers...if it's still there, a pic would be helpful.
     
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  7. Dee_Mitchell

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    Thanx for the responses....I appreciate them.
    I went online to see if I could find anything similar to it and the Kingsnake was closest in appearance so I thought it could possibly be one but I'm not sure what species are common to Ontario. I looked up every garter and grass snake picture available as well but none looked anything like this one.
    I grew up on a farm here in Southern Ontario and snake sightings were almost a daily event but I have never seen one like this either.
    My concern is that someone has had it for a pet and it has somehow escaped or been turned loose in which case it could be from anywhere, or any species.
    I'll see if we can get a pic of it to post the next time it's seen.
    Thanx again. Dee
     
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  11. bassteck76

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    Milks, Kings all are Lampropeltis and all look very similar in appearance, head and body wise........
     
  12. Ash19

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    You know, I thought it might have been a milk, cause I know they are similar, but the site I was on, the milk looked nothing like that. It was odd, and I thought it had to be wrong...but a milk snake does make sense!
     
  13. Dee_Mitchell

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    Thank you again for the responses I really do appreciate them. I looked thru all the available pics of the milk snake and none really look like this one though. As I mentioned, it has one inch bands or rings that alternate yellow then black then yellow etc the full length of the body with a black head. The yellow is somewhat the same as the dark yellow of a banana skin (sorry I can't think of another comparison that everyone would be familiar with) The bands appear to go completely around the body but I can't say for sure if they are on the underbelly.
    Would it be possible for a snake to be cross bred to get an unusual color or pattern?
    We will try to get a pic if possible as I would feel better knowing what it is.
    Thanks again for the suggestions. Dee
     
  14. Tux

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    I'm still pretty sure it's a milk, we have tons of em in southwestern Ontario (where i am). If however by the off chance you notice red rings with yellow rings on each side, remove yourself. It's doubtful but you never know these days. A good saying "Red touch yellow, kill a fellow", "Red touch black, friend of Jack."
     
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    Northern Water Snake sipedon???


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  16. MikeFuture

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    There are no native Canadian snakes that match that description. You have a non-native escape, and without a picture I can't give you a proper ID.
     
  17. Dee_Mitchell

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    Sorry for the delay responding but I've been away. Thanx for the response...I appreciate it.
    There is only yellow and black rings on this snake...no red. I was concerned someone may have got tired of one that was a pet or something and turned it loose because I couldn't find anything that was similar from around here.
    It hasn't been seen since the last time so we haven't had a chance to take a pic but I will if it turns up again.
     
  18. Dee_Mitchell

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    I couldn't find any snakes that matched it's coloring either native to this area...that's why I was concerned. I was afraid someone may have turned one loose that was possibly poisonous and I was concerned my daughter or someone else, might get bit. It hasn't been spotted since that last nite but I will take a pic if it shows up again.
    Thanx for the responses...all of you. I appreciate the help.
    Stay safe. Dee
     
  19. WTFbbqSnake

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    It sounds something like a mangrove snake by the way he describes it.
     
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  21. Ash19

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    Lol we don't have the Timber in Canada anymore. Just the Massassauga. But I'm sure they'd be able to tell if it was a rattlesnake.
    It's probably an escaped/freed pet. Either way, it's gone now.
     
  22. WTFbbqSnake

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    It's "extinct" from canada now? That sucks.
     
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