Why are Albino balls more expensive then albino boas?

Discussion in 'General Snakes' started by tupi1, May 31, 2011.

  1. tupi1

    tupi1 New Member

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    Ive always wanted an albino snake.Since I already have 2 boas I wanted something a bit different so thought Id save up for an albino ball python. But 450, seriously...That just seems a bit insane compared to getting an albino boa for half that.
    I dont really have the room for another boa.I mean if I stretched I could make room but Id rather have an albino ball python.Why the price difference?

    I see balls all the time on Craigslist but everyone seems to think they are worth soo much and all have fancy morphs.Frankly I cant really see charging 50 for a normal and 200 for one that is just a tiny bit brighter but not that much different unless you hold them side by side.
     
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  3. HerpboyFLA

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    The prices reflect an unfair fact of life- supply and demand.
     
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  5. justkev

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    And to think I paid over $2,000 for my first albino ball..:eek: demand was a lot higher back then :)

    I am pretty sure that if you look around, you can find one even cheaper.
     
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  7. tupi1

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    2000 is really insane.But if you can afford it I suppose its okay.Dont know if I would spend that much on any pet but maybe a breeder.
    I just want a pet.
     
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  9. justkev

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    Yeah back then that was the "going rate". Other morphs were much, much more expensive.

    It's pretty amazing how much they have come down in price.
     
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  11. tupi1

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    well about 5yrs ago the ball pythons around here were really cheap at the petstore.Like 30 bucks but now you cant touch one for 60+..I would think since they live 40yrs there would be a glut of them sooner or later.
    But I still want an albino.

    I have debated on breeding my boas next year.There is a good chance I might get an albino I think(Im not good at genetics)...My female is a Hypo het ghost and possibly Albino(66%), my male is 100 percent het albino possibly het for anery(66%)..So who knows what I would get.
     
  12. HerpboyFLA

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    If your female does turn out to be het albino there's a 25% chance that any given offspring will be albino. Theoretically, about 1/4 of the offspring will be. That's assuming that none of the other genes are dominant.
     
  13. tupi1

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    What if they are both het for Anery?
    Wouldnt I get some anery babies or would there be chance for any ghost?
    I really need to study this more.
    With my luck I will get all normals...I may hold out and just buy a albino.
     
  14. HerpboyFLA

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    If you have two het anery, and only anery. Then you will have probabilities of 1/4 normal, 2/4 het anery, 1/4 anery. It's impossible however to distinguish between the normal and possible hets.

    Check out my blog in my signature, I actually just made a post about this, think I broke it down enough to where anybody can understand it, let me know.
     
  15. BP36

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    think thats bad, when pie balds and most other new morphs hit the seen they normally go anywhere over 20,000 to even 65,000 ive seen. 450 is waht i got mine for back in january 09 and that was a male. i paid 365 for my albino redtail. as said above , supply and demand.
     
  16. WingedWolf

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    Supply and demand is right. Ball pythons breed only once per year--they never double clutch. The average clutch size is 6 eggs. An average Boa constrictor litter size is 25!
    You will produce a heck of a lot more boas in one year than you will ball pythons, with the same number of breeding animals. This makes the ball python market less volatile than the boa market--high priced new morphs come down only slowly, and the most popular morphs, like piebald, may hang on to high prices for a VERY long time. (Pieds are almost as old as albinos, but their price remains over $600 for hatchling males). The fact that it is a recessive gene helps, too. Co-dom animals come down in price much faster.
     
  17. BP36

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    hell, if i could find piebalds under 900 that would be nice. i dropped 1500 for my male 2 years ago and even at the all cleveland reptile shows i frequent i still normally see em for 1000. super mojave's and super lessers i noticed came down a few hundred from last year
     

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