hibernating or dead

how do you tell the differcene beetwen a hibernating tort or adead tort :cry: :cry: :cry:

 

So sad, i don't know the answer to your question but i hope he's ok.

 

were pretty sure its dead :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

 

how could it have happend???

 

i will tell you what happend but we dont now y she died one day i come in my room and shes bleeding we take her to the vet and we find out from a exray she has eggs and we have a choice of unthinezing it or leting some one else keeping it or paying for about a $1,000 operation or we could let them keep it for a night in see if it layed the eggs and we did the last one and it layed the eggs we took her and the eggs home and we took her to a better vet and vet said to give her a certain shot and a little will after we took her off her shots she died :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: R.IP Henryeta